300 gram raw beef 4 L orange juice

[Kasper]

I'm now on a diet width 4 L orange juice, and 300 gram raw beef, nothing else.

The raw beef, is in dutch called 'tartaar', i think it's called steak tartare in english, it has 22 gram protein and 10 gram fat per 100 gram.
Because of financial issues, i'm not eating fish anymore, just can't afford it. And I don't really like raw eggs, because of some bad experiences width it I think.
Beside this, steak tartare is also cheaper than organic eggs.

Is this diet healthy ? Anyone ever tried? I'm a little bit worrying about omega 3 and iodide, and maybe other micronutrients which eggs and fish cover better.

RDA: FDA Men, 19-24YR, 72kg, 160lb, 177cm, 70in

Selection:
[Item-1] 4000ml (mililiters) of Orange juice (Citrus sinensis), fresh, not pasteurized, [1][2].

Weight:......................................4185.6540g

Constituents...................................Quantity..............RDA

Water........................................3695.93248g ..............?g
Energy.......................................1883.54430kcal .....2900.00kcal
Protein quality...................................10.28%
Protein........................................29.29957g ..........58.00g
-Methionine.....................................0.12556g .......13mg/kg (FAO/WHO 85)
-Cysteine.......................................0.20928g .......13mg/kg (FAO/WHO 85)
Total lipid (Fat)...............................8.37130g ..............?g
Carbohydrate..................................435.30801g ..............?g
Fiber, total dietary............................8.37130g ..............?g
-Fibre, wat. sol................................0.00000g ..............?g missing items:1
-Fibre, wat. ins................................0.00000g ..............?g missing items:1

Minerals, and trace elements
Calcium, Ca...................................460.42194mg .......1200.00mg
Iron, Fe........................................8.37130mg .........10.00mg
Magnesium, Mg.................................460.42194mg ........350.00mg
Phosphorus, P.................................711.56118mg .......1200.00mg
Potassium, K.................................8371.30801mg .............?mg
Sodium, Na.....................................41.85654mg .............?mg
Zinc, Zn........................................2.09282mg .........15.00mg
Copper, Cu......................................1.84168mg .............?mg
Manganese, Mn...................................0.58599mg .............?mg
Selenium, Se....................................0.00418mg ..........0.07mg
Iodide, I.......................................0.04185mg ..........0.15mg
Cobalt, Co......................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
Chromium, Cr....................................0.04185mg .............?mg
Nickel, Ni......................................0.04185mg .............?mg
Fluorine, F.....................................0.03767mg .............?mg
Boron, B........................................4.18565mg .............?mg
Silicon, Si....................................41.85654mg .............?mg
Tin, Sn.........................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
Molybdenum, Mo..................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
Vanadium, V.....................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
Chloride......................................159.05485mg .............?mg
Bromine, Br.....................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
Aluminium, Al...................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
Nitrite.........................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
Nitrate.........................................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1

Vitamins
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid...............2092.82700mg .........60.00mg
Vitamin B1, Thiamin.............................3.76708mg ..........1.50mg
Vitamin B2, Riboflavin..........................1.25569mg ..........1.70mg
Vitamin B3, Niacin, Nicotinamide...............16.74261mg .........19.00mg
Vitamin B5, Pantothenic acid....................7.95274mg .............?mg
Vitamin B6, Pyridoxine..........................1.67426mg ..........2.00mg
Folate, total................................1255.69620mcg .......200.00mcg
-Folate acid (Vitamin B9).......................0.00000mcg ............?mcg
-Folate, food................................1255.69620mcg ............?mcg
-Folate, DFE.................................1255.69620mcg_DFE ........?mcg_DFE
Vitamin B-12....................................0.00000mcg .........2.00mcg
Vitamin A, IU................................8371.30801IU .............?IU
Vitamin A, RE.................................837.13080mcg_RE ...1000.00mcg_RE
Total carotenoids...............................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
-alpha-carotene.................................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
-beta-carotene...............................1381.26582mcg ............?mcg
-gamma-carotene.................................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
-cryptoxanthin..................................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
-mutatochrome...................................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
-lycopene.......................................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
-lutein+zeaxanthin..............................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
Vitamin D.......................................0.00000IU ........400.00IU
Vitamin E.......................................3.76708mg_ATE .....10.00mg_ATE
Vitamin H, Biotin...............................0.00000mcg ............?mcg missing items:1
Vitamin K.......................................0.00000mcg ........70.00mcg missing items:1
Tocopherol, total...............................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
-Tocopherol, alpha..............................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
-Tocopherol, beta...............................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
-Tocopherol, gamma..............................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
-Tocopherol, delta..............................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
-Tocotrienol, alpha.............................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1
-Tocotrienol, beta..............................0.00000mg .............?mg missing items:1

Lipids

Fatty acids, total polyunsat...................1.67426g ..............?g
18:2, linoleic, undifferentiated................1.21383g ..............?g
18:3, linolenic, undifferentiated...............0.46042g ..............?g
18:4............................................0.00000g ..............?g
20:2 n-6 c,c....................................0.00000g ..............?g missing items:1
20:3 undifferentiated ..........................0.00000g ..............?g missing items:1
20:4 undifferentiated...........................0.00000g ..............?g
20:5 n-3, eicosapentaenoic......................0.00000g ..............?g
22:5 n-3, docosapentaenoic......................0.00000g ..............?g
22:6 n-3, docosahexaenoic.......................0.00000g ..............?g

[Oscar]

It seems to me you're not getting enough energy like this.

[panacea]

but you can just add sugar to all the OJ, should get enough 'energy' like that

[Kasper]

Yeah, I add sugar to the juice for energy.
I prefer to add sugar instead of oil.

[Oscar]

The carb:fat ratio is quite high at 50:1...not sure if that'll cause any problems, but from an optimal point of view it might be better to add oil instead of sugar.

[Kasper]

I get also 30 gram fat from beef, which makes 11:1. Is that a good ratio ?

And what about the micronutrients?
I think I get enough zinc, selenium, phosphorus, iron and vitamin B2,B3,B6 and B12 from the beef to fil lthose gaps in the nutrient table. And vitamin D I get enough from the sun at the moment.

But about omega 3, iodide, vitamin A and E I have some doubts. What would you say ?

[abicahsoul]

For Omega3 perhaps eat small portions of fish 2-3 times a week? And add up the protein level to what is good for you with the meat?
50gr salmon 2-3 times a week shouldn't be that expensive I believe. Just a suggestion.

[dime]

That ratio is still quite large, it'd be better to add some olive oil instead of sugar to the juice.
You could get some omega 3, vitamin A and D from 2-3 grams of fish liver oil per day. But you already have quite a bit of vitamin A there, 8000IU?
For vitamin E you could include some nuts, usually they contain significant amounts of it.

[RRM]

If you are physically active, you need much sugar relative to fat.

Because of financial issues, i'm not eating fish anymore, just can't afford it.

You can get good frozen salmon at Dirk van de Broek; 4 pieces for 5 euro.
Thats only 1,25 euro a day.

I'm a little bit worrying about omega 3 and iodide

I agree.
You can easily alternate the beef with salmon regularly.

about omega 3, iodide, vitamin A and E I have some doubts. What would you say ?

Regarding omega-3 and iodide, please consume some salmon regularly.
beta-carotene is converted into vitamin A, when required.
Also, salmon would supply you with substantial vitamin A and E.

[Iris]

Because of financial issues, i'm not eating fish anymore, just can't afford it.

You can get good frozen salmon at Dirk van de Broek; 4 pieces for 5 euro.
Thats only 1,25 euro a day.

There is no Dirk vd Broek in Groningen
Kasper, may I ask what you pay for your salmon? You get it at the market, right? And what do you pay for beef?
Recently I discovered Lidl sells frozen herring, unsalted. We paid 2,50 for 4 fillets. Maybe that is an option for you? We tried it, it tastes good

[Kasper]

If you are physically active, you need much sugar relative to fat.

I'm sporting 4 a 5 times a week. One hour a day. Concering blood sugar levels, I think I'm quite okay.
I'm also studying 4,5 hours a day, so maybe I need a little bit more fat for my resting muscles, but I feel like i'm okay width sugar/fat ratio.

You can get good frozen salmon at Dirk van de Broek; 4 pieces for 5 euro.

I don't like frozen salmon. You know if there are really health issues, I would probably do it. But I would rather take some supplements in that case.

Kasper, may I ask what you pay for your salmon? You get it at the market, right? And what do you pay for beef?

I used to get organic salmon from the AH, 29 euro/kg. Organic tartare is 11 euro/kg.
But if I would buy it now, I would take nonorganic salmon, which is 21 euro/kg, maybe I can get it cheaper on the market.
Because I'm trying to get some more muscle mass, I switched to 300 gram animal food a day. Which is quite expensive.

Recently I discovered Lidl sells frozen herring, unsalted. We paid 2,50 for 4 fillets. Maybe that is an option for you? We tried it, it tastes good

Sounds great! I love herring. Would be great option. 8 fillets a week extra, would that solve my omega 3 iodide trouble ?

[RRM]

I don't like frozen salmon.

Did you really try?
Warm it up in warm water (in a small plastic bag); it really tastes delicious.

Recently I discovered Lidl sells frozen herring, unsalted. We paid 2,50 for 4 fillets. Maybe that is an option for you? We tried it, it tastes good

Sounds great! I love herring. Would be great option. 8 fillets a week extra, would that solve my omega 3 iodide trouble ?

Absolutely.
Herring is high in omega 3 and iodide (and vitamin E and A)

[Iris]

I used to get organic salmon from the AH, 29 euro/kg. Organic tartare is 11 euro/kg.
But if I would buy it now, I would take nonorganic salmon, which is 21 euro/kg, maybe I can get it cheaper on the market.
Because I'm trying to get some more muscle mass, I switched to 300 gram animal food a day. Which is quite expensive.

It's cheaper on the market indeed. There is a small market stall selling fish, facing the organic fruit- and vegetable stand (coming from the Grote Markt on the left side of the market). We used to get it there for like 13-14,-/kg. It's probably more expensive now, as that was a couple of years ago. It tasted very good, though.

Another option is buying a whole salmon somewhere, fillet it and freezing it. Although frozen salmon you buy from the supermarket is groce indeed (sorry RRM, have to agree with Kasper here ), fresh salmon which you have frozen yourself tastes almost as good as fresh non-frozen. But that is, ofcourse, just my opinion
Anyway, we do it like that, and pay just 7 euro/kg (but ofcourse you waste more)

[abicahsoul]

@Iris, this is a bit off topic, but may I ask what you do with the frozen herring from Lidl.. ? Just thaw it and eat it.. or you use something with it like lime or lemon or so? I think I have to go check the Lidl fish section again and see if they have it.

[Iris]

I just defrost it, take out all fish-bones (what can I say, I'm very picky when it comes to food ) and if needed remove the skin (was a bit tough last time, probably because they're unsalted). Then just eat it (I don't like lemon juice, or anything else for that matter, on my fish, spoils the taste completely in my opinion).


@Kasper: I was thinking, maybe you could try to find mackerel (or order it somewhere, for instance at the stall I mentioned). It's very cheap (probably around 5,-/kg).